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What is Broly's LSSJ power multiplier.; No Broly Haters please.
Topic Started: Apr 19 2014, 01:58 PM (4,474 Views)
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I would make an explanation, but I put a link into the pinned topic about Broly's power. You should find the linked thing pretty interesting.
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Apr 19 2014, 04:01 PM
I treat Broli's "Legendary" Super Saiyan boost as his own mutated version of Super Saiyan Grade 3 and/or Super Saiyan 2, which I believe share the same "2x SSJ" boost to begin with. Broli's form may be identical to those two, or even perhaps a tiny bit stronger what with how over-bloated with power he is. But only a tiny bit, like a 110-115x base boost at best.
Slight problem, if SSJ Broly was a match for base Gohan, he would have gotten weaker. And that's not the case because he was stated, or at least heavily implied, to have gotten a zenkai. Plus, base Gohan would be way below ASSJ Vegeta, who Broly was tanking attacks from in M8. However, I do think his jump from SSJ to LSSJ is bigger than a SSJ2's.
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Apr 24 2014, 08:08 PM
Slight problem, if SSJ Broly was a match for base Gohan, he would have gotten weaker.
If you're referring to their little "warm up" round, I don't take that as a serious indicator of "base Gohan ~ SSJ Broli." Toei likes to pull that stuff all the time, especially in the movies.

Goku doesn't even TRY the Kaio-Ken while getting smacked around by Slug, Goku messes around with the Kaio-Ken against Metal Coola instead of going Super Saiyan right away, base Goku/Trunks/Vegeta fight the Androids they could barely beat with Super Saiyan, base Goku vs Broli in Movie 8, base Goku Vs Fat Janemba who has the most amazing ki he'd ever felt, and so forth. Gohan Vs Broli in Movie 10 is no different in my book.
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Apr 24 2014, 08:20 PM
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Apr 24 2014, 08:08 PM
Slight problem, if SSJ Broly was a match for base Gohan, he would have gotten weaker.
If you're referring to their little "warm up" round, I don't take that as a serious indicator of "base Gohan ~ SSJ Broli." Toei likes to pull that stuff all the time, especially in the movies.

Goku doesn't even TRY the Kaio-Ken while getting smacked around by Slug, Goku messes around with the Kaio-Ken against Metal Coola instead of going Super Saiyan right away, base Goku/Trunks/Vegeta fight the Androids they could barely beat with Super Saiyan, base Goku vs Broli in Movie 8, base Goku Vs Fat Janemba who has the most amazing ki he'd ever felt, and so forth. Gohan Vs Broli in Movie 10 is no different in my book.
Speaking of Base Goku vs Broly, that is actually something I found interesting simply because this is one of the few points in the movie, where any Z fighter bothered to dodge. You could say it's really just a stupid thing for RSSJ Broly to be missing Goku, but it compliments Goku more IMO. It also gives us an idea of how big Broly's multiplier is. Reason being the SSJ form multiplies ki, which powers speed, durability, and strength. So, if Goku was dodging Broly's attacks in base form, then technically, turning into a SSJ, would make that 50x harder for Broly to hit him.

But LSSJ Broly had no trouble hitting the Z fighters who would easily be 50x faster than RSSJ Broly. RSSJ Broly should be, IMO, at least half as strong as the normal SSJ form. Reason being it's only logical to assume that. Yeah, assumptions. But think about it, Broly was capable of ravaging a galaxy, and Paragus was so scared of Broly, that he mind controlled Broly and his power. If you are gonna restrain a cannon's power, you'd at least restrain it to half it's original strength.

That's my take on that. But, Broly was severely agitated when he was around Goku, so this could be used to say he powered up to full Super Saiyan form. He was still restrained, so I'm not sure. I'd say he was still significantly restrained. If so, his SSJ form should be a lot stronger. Now, as we know, LSSJ Broly was easily pummeling the SSJ's and barely missing either, only once or twice. So, his speed was definitely increased. But how much? Well, back to RSSJ Broly.

If he was really only half of his SSJ power when he tanked ASSJ Vegeta's attacks, then that would mean his LSSJ form would have a multiplier of 25x for the SSJ form, since it is capable of being accessed when the user is in SSJ form. If he was full power when he tanked the kicks, that would mean his LSSJ form have a 50x multiplier, being stacked on top of the SSJ form. It doesn't matter too much where you put him, in terms of the multiplier. Because even if he was between MSSJ and SSJ2, he still kicked a***. If you put him at Buu level, he still kicked a***.

Not to mention, Broly wasn't serious at all during the fight with the Z fighters and Goku personally. So it's quite possible he just wanted to test out his new power and have a little fun with it, which is why no one was just one shotted out of the blue. Now, I won't give him a 25x, or 50x multiplier for LSSJ. However, considering his speed was increased, like SSJ2, he likely has a very big multiplier for LSSJ. SSJ2 is a multiplication of SSJ. SSJ2 improves speed, strength, and durability, just like SSJ.

But SSJ2 increases the muscle mass by a somewhat noticeable amount. As we know, Broly's durability is insane, and his strength is insane too. He is perfectly capable of wiping the floor with a SSJ, and even in one hit! Vegeta being the one who got one hit ko'd. So, his strength is pretty insane too and was likely increased. So, based on the fact that the LSSJ form is a genuine transformation, all stats increased, based on his muscle mass, he would have a massive multiplier. Something above 4x, that's for sure. Since he's so huge, I'd say it'd be an 8x increase of SSJ. Maybe 10x.

Of course, this whole thing is a theory, and whether or not it's legit, is completely up to you. Personally, I don't think his multiplier should be that big, but I think it's probably above SSJ2.
Edited by PG14, Apr 25 2014, 07:06 PM.
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